357 magnum vs 30 06

The rifle can be obtained in .223 Rem, the new 6.5 Creedmoor, 308 Winchester, a number of others. If you don’t own one, you should.” Below we have listed critical data describing peak sound pressure levels produced by firearms used in shooting and hunting sports. The 357 is much cheaper to reload. Now enter the heavies. Of course, all shots were within 100 yards and several were within 25 yards. Recoil is extremely mild even with the stoutest loads, so that the XS ghost ring sights never even leave the target; you just keep working the lever and blazing away until you run out of ammo (not likely) or until your tin can bounces away out of sight. It will be less slow in the rifle. Dated 1894 as a product start date the Winchester model 94 as chambered in 30-30 Winchester has taken more game down up to the size of moose, elk, or bear, by way of a single 170 grain round nosed bullet. Currently most are liable through Cabela’s, / Bass Pro, and Brownells. I also chrono’ed it out of the 16.5″ barrel>, At 100 yds (calculated): It weighs six pounds and holds 5+1 rounds. Web site www.metrogun.com. Both make good deer cartridges, the 30-30 somewhat better as everyone knows…. As previously indicated the Browning line is both well dressed and very flexible in terms of chamber offerings. I’m just glad he didn’t have the 44 with the wood stock…then I would have also had to buy the matching model 29! I currently live in the American west and hunt all across the Black Hills of South Dakota, and the Big Horn mountains. If your gun is likely to be used primarily for recreational shooting, hunting medium game within 100 yards, or defensive use, the .357 is superior. 357 – It’s not a deer sniper, but it will do it easily on whitetail. Before buying into the lever gun you need to know the good, bad, and just plain ugly, when it come into these types of weapons. same problem with the early ’94’s above 240gr.

125-grain SJHP handloads filled with 17.0 grains of Vitavhouri N-110, a slow-burning magnum pistol powder. On my property ( Farmette) I mate it up with a Ruger GP100 3″ SST Talo edition wheelgun and feel pretty confident about my armed status. Built with side ejection that allows scopes if desired, and offered in 45-70 Government, this is a first class game getter to be sure. Currently the optins are many in turns of buying into the lever action rifle design today.

May be able to use H110 for hotter loads, but that powder doesn’t give you much wiggle room–they will be hot. Dr. Krammer continues to say that shotgun noise averaged slightly more that 150dB. I just don’t see a need for them in 45 Long Colt. I have run a small company that builds suppressor barrels of my design, and load tests for writing purposes and consulting. 1392 fps, 904ft.lbs, bullet drop of -6.7″ . Very well made and massive flexable rifle with may cartridge options and a box magazine fed system for the use of the latest cartridges. These rifles were listed as #1, and #2 respectively, and were the start of the long line of rifles built under the Colt firearms license. I know, and I’m not holding my breath. I need to move to big bear country so I’ll have a reason to buy a .45-70. If the 357 145g JHP will kill deer-sized game out to 100 yards, what more do I need. Taken down it can fit into a case only a little longer than the barrel. And sighted thus, 125 grain 38+Ps are minute of saucer out to 50 yards. That rifle has caused a lot of stress in my life by walking out of the LGS and leaving it on the shelf. I’d love to see this article again only comparing the .44 to the.357,m-1 carbine and 30-30,plus other big bore pistol cartridges that are also available for a rifle I believe top strap cutting was a problem or at least thought to be a problem. These rifles are offered in a variety of cartridge chamberings, but to my mind, the 30-30 comes up as the only show in town when it comes to cartridge selection by the buyer. And no, my Savage 99 30-30 with the Weaver 4x isn’t going anywhere except with me to the woods. please!!!! Last but not least, I present the world Winchester Model 94. I have dropped 1400 pound buffalo with  a single round to the neck with this load at a range of 135 yards by way of my 45-70 Winchester in a Sharp buffalo rifle. Now what should we compare it to….

Is that from experience? Hell, in Utah they use it to execute two-legged predators. Ended up getting a Winchester 1892 large loop carbine with the 18” barrel. Hornady makes a .357 Magnum 140-grain Leverevolution that claims to get 1850 fps and 1064 lb-ft from an 18″ carbine.

Parent Case: .30-03 Springfield 2. I have seen more than one cowboy with all the parts of a Model 94 scattered on the bench due to a feed issue, or some broken part. Not sure math has changed from 9 years ago. I already have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting, plinking, and defense. Light rounds but great when used at the correct range on the right warm targets. Make the first shot count every time. Federal 327 Mag. Open hammer for single action shooting. The carbine got 2038 fps (!) Buffalo Bore also claims that their “Heavy” .357 Magnum hard cast 158-grain loads will produce 2153 fps and 1626 lb-ft from an 18″ carbine. Depends on what kind of performance you are looking for. The total overall length is 37 inches at 7 pounds less glass optics. ALWAYS CONSULT A PROFESSIONAL AUDIOLOGIST, OTOLOGIST, OR OTOLARYNGOLOGIST WITH YOUR HEARING PROBLEMS. Changed one buttstock screw to make an easy slide open access. It getting to where reading TTAG is like watching a Hickok45 video. If we only bought guns that “made sense”, it would be a boring world. This rifle is the classic American western frontier Indian fighting rifle, and the primary long gun carried by hunters and outlaws alike. Double that for a Henry with a 20″ barrel. Congrats on the new GP100. The lever action is faster than most bolt guns, but speed will mean pulling off target when working the action with most shooters. .357 will kill deer out to 100yds? The carbine got…1153 lb-ft, for a…98 percent boost in energy.”. I own one of each.

There were still deer being hunted in the West, but fewer kills (and hunters) than today. Using a rifle in the area would likely cause more problems than it would solve. I do, over 30 years now, and still a favorite. Tube fed magazines with over ejection keep the rifles traditional, but materials are very current and CNC has taken over the basic, milling to perfection on the rifles with hand fitting to follow in the production line at Henry arms.

AS THE SOUND PRESSURES INCREASE, SO DOES THE RISK OF PERMANENT HEARING LOSS. Buy one and shoot it for life is what seems to be the pattern with most owners of the lever action firearm. And that’s with standard ammo. This lever action is chambered in 45-70 Govermnet and retains deep cut Ballard type rifling, Straight traditional grip style. Scott, the results of BBTI are interesting, yes that is correct, past 16″ there are diminishing if not negative returns, which is why I had my single shot cut and threaded as it was 24″ and all my others are 18″ threaded, after reading those tests. Next best thing to an AR-15, if you cant have one, it shoots fast and quick target acquisition. I prefer my BLR over tube fed lever guns. For me the .357 lever gun would just be a cool range toy. The .357’s handgun ballistics are impressive indeed, but how much more impressive does it get from an extra fourteen inches of barrel? The carbine achieved 944 fps and 313 lb-ft, a 40 percent increase in velocity and a 96 percent increase in energy. Good for any game legal to use a rifle to hunt plus a good choice for home defense all in one weapon, one caliber. Sounds more like a bad shot than a bad gun. The preceding review has been somewhat extensive but illustrates that there is a real future for the lever action rifle today.

Required fields are marked *. The rifle I will feature here is their Uberti 1866 Yellowboy. My problem is that while I do have a .357 revolver to pair with a .357 rifle, I don’t have a .44 revolver to pair with a .44 rifle. (And my shot placement wasn’t great on the doe that went 70 yards.). I have the Marlin in .44 magnum, have used it for many deer hunts along with my Redhawk, my only two “deer guns”. Remington’s 125 gr SJSP in a Henry Big Boy Steel .357 is a potent combination. I’d love a lever gun in 357…pretty sure I’ve typed that before on TTAG! A rifle wouldn’t have that problem, plus if you wanted to shoot the .357 Mag you still could, you’d just have to single load it into a lever action. Jumpin’ Jehoshaphat, this article is almost ten years old! Here’s one comparison. It may work better in .44 and .45 since the velocity differences aren’t as great.

As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. My commercial names include Ballistics Research & Development / Metro Gun Systems.TM. This post was originally published in 2011. The Winchester’s are very smooth but I do still think about the octagonal 16” barrel henry case hardened big loop I was thinking about.

Alaska for Bear country. In terms of my use of the lever action as I hunt all across the USA and additional foreign countries at times, my gun vault holds a nice little Henry 327 Federal, and the time honored Winchester Model 94 chambered in 30-30 Winchester.

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