xr650 vs xr250

I’m using all theese for ten years now with excellent results. I am considering buying a UK registered Tornado but wondered about availability of spares/accessories etc ….is that likely to be a pain /slow/expensive when compared to the L model because it was not generally imported into Europe?…would appreciate your advice Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. The 650r is a beast. If you're not the kind of owner that wants to give that much attention to their bike, get the XRL and do the common mods (ie uncorking). Even the power’s the same, though  the XR’s tank is half as big again and there’s 10% more claimed torque at 1000 less rpm on the Tornado (23.7Nm @6000rpm). Scary.

It's 100% worth the kick start of you understand where to kick it (compression vs. exhaust cycles). For the same price of a CRF you could buy a Falcon 400 (conceptually an old NX with the XR 400 engine also made in Brasil) which looks and sounds like a much better ADV. Same price, weight and power as the CRF… But the CRF has been amazingly reliable from what I’ve heard and as you’d expect for a Honda. FYI, I have a website dedicated to finding parts for the Tornado outside of Latin America. The kick is actually pretty great, but it's no fun to stall in traffic. Riding the 250s Although I rode them a few months apart, my impression was the XR was a more agile machine that lived up to its XR prefix. The injected version is said to be power restricted in the upper gears, but there’s a dodge or two to get round that here. Both are inexpensive bikes, but as far as I know there’s no place where you can choose between one or the other, well not new any more. 86-91 XR200R 216 dry. You can check it out here: https://xr250tornado.wordpress.com/alternative-spares-list/, What about Honda’s concept CRF250L Rallye? CRF 250 L = US 8000. It's a couch.

I'm curently in AZ so I'm worried the air-cooled L will overheat in the summer. How do they compare? So, I have decide whether to buy the panniers in EU (hence the question, which ones?) Hah! Do it. The XRR is a beast, and it's not a commuter. Most of the police ride Tornados there and the owner ofthe shop said that he regularly sees Tornados with 180000km on the clock if looked after.

I was getting stuck on the idea that I had to go with the CRF250, but it seems like the Tornado is just as capable at a significant price drop. My wife and I got our Tornados serviced in Ecuador last year at a shop that has the contract to service all the Police Bikes in Quito. TORNADO 250 = US 4000, (or less..). Imagine passing a truck on a single lane doing 50 and suddenly have the motor go dead. Put a fan on it, computer, DOT tires, Baja designs kit, and uncork it with nice can to finish it off. ( Log Out / 

There was another one on gumtree, same age and mileage for a more reasonable £1400. However, the 300 has a poor reputation in Brazil; riders even lower the compression to try and make it last. Thanks for the update, Roberto. It has 800 oil change intervals and requires much more attention and love than the XRL.

Late 2016 – uprated and Rally CRF250Ls announced. Joined: Nov 6, 2010 Oddometer: 1,526 Location: Philly 'burbs. ** Fast forward a few months.I met a TRFer last week and he told me 250 Tornados from around 2003–4 are found in the UK and as I check the usual places I find he’s right. I have been told quickly, rear suspension, cam, piston, plastic vs steel gas tank.

81-83 XR200R 222 dry 227 curb. Smooth and comfy but it'll get the job done in the desert. ymmv. I was eyeing that bike up too but his original £2200 was ridiculous – I think he dropped it to 1800 or so before my attention darted off to something else (including DRZs for a bit). What's wrong with a CRF1000L for pasture play? There was another one on gumtree, same age and mileage for a more reasonable £1400. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/march/honda-crf250-concept/, Better suspension, comfier seat, beefed up rear subframe complete with rack fixing points and even a little screen, it could be the perfect small travel bike. This entry was posted in AMH News, Project Bikes, Project: Honda CRF250L and tagged CRF250L vs Tornado, Honda CRF250L, Honda XR250 Tornado, kawasaki KLX250S, Project: Yamaha WR250R, XRE300 on March 25, 2015 by Chris S. Post navigation ← Tenerising a TDM900 Kawasaki 650 Versys project bike → Hi everyone, in Argentina, Tornadoes are still one of the best selling motorcycles. You can even fit an excellent front suspension valves (this I think is the number one accesory, inexpensive, easy to install and incredible improvement in every condition). Both the EFI Kawa and especially the Yam WR are significantly pricier used in the UK – from £2500. However, the 300 has a poor reputation in Brazil; riders even lower the compression to try and make it last. Hi William. The engines are bulletproof. The bike proved to be a very capable adventure steed.

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Wait for a good one. High mileage is always a risk – especially with a small motor and especially if there have been many owners. Suspension felt longer and more supple on the Tornado (in RSA they did a low seat model some 40mm lower; see table above left), the back disc is much better on the CRF.

More news on how my WR compares with the above 250s here. ). Used prices of the more powerful and unrestricted WR250R make it a less obvious choice for a travel bike as opposed to a fun weekend dirt bike, and they’re pretty rare in the UK which stopped importing them in 2008 (still sold new in parts of the EU and the US and Au where the WR has a strong following). Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Check out some local blogs….

Here’s a link to a rack that I saw on a Tornado for a top box. I went from a 650r to a 450x to a 650L. Point us to some pics from Iceland if there are any. But maybe that’s the way it is with an ‘exotic’ unobtainable machine, let alone one whose old school technology recalls a simpler era which someone my age can relate to. Will be back in Morocco in Nov with 6 Tornados.

Both can sit on 100kph all day until you encounter steep inclines, headwinds or high altitude. Two 250 Honda trail bikes: one which I used in the UK then owned in the US; the other which I’ve used as a rental in Morocco several times. If it were me I'd go with the R. Take the L. And, uh, send me the contact info for the guy with the R ☺. I old lady owner is best ;-) You can buy accesories like front shields (mandatory for long cruising), racks, for tail or saddle bags, engine bottom protection, and even a 23 lts very good quality plastic tank, like acerbis. Thanks for an informative article. It's already street legal with the Baja kit, it has a trail tech, and d606 tires! They sold new in Australia right up to 2012 but elsewhere are getting on.As an alternative to the CRF, the injected Kawasaki KLX250B9 (an old carb’d KLX250S in the US) has been around for years, but for some reason never created the impact of the CRF when it came out, even if the suspension is way better than the Honda. Add an incline and it struggled to do 80kph at times, though it might have been the local fuel which, in my experience, varies greatly in USA. Have you got some close-up photos? But then I have ridden Tornados with nearly 100,000 kms and 100s of rental users. hahahah I mean come on, has any one sat on a 230, then switched to a xr250. And that’s the biggest difference of all. It depends on what you do. Post was not sent - check your email addresses!

All it needs is some suspension. That could be down to the Tornado’s 1980s carb-and-air-cooled technology which makes the same claimed power as the modern water-cooled, fuel-injected pre-2017 CRF. I have heard that both of these bikes have bulletproof engines that require low maintenance, but how many kilometers are too many? Not sure what you decided but go R! I’ve ridden my Tornado all around South America with just soft bags slung over the back seat. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Why Honda’s CT125 makes a great adv (and why it doesn’t), Africa Twin: Sealing the Rear Wheel for Tubeless, Quick ride: Fantic 500 Caballero Scrambler review, Himalayan: Impressions at the edge of the Sahara, Royal Enfield Himalayan tested in the Himalaya, Electric, 2×2 and riding UBCO’s utility bike, BMW G310GS: first ride in Morocco [video], XSR700 Dawn-to-Dusk: Wales to Scotland via Ireland, XSR 700 Scrambler – tail rack and fork preload caps, CB500X RRP bashplate and Palmer windshield mount, 80/20 – Best Adventure Motorcycling Tyres, 90/10 – Adventure Motorcycling tyres for road riding, Tested: Mitas MC23 Rockrider tyre on WR250R, Adventure Motorcycling Soft Baggage Comparison, Giant Loop Siskiyou throwovers – quick look, Quick Look: Adventure Spec Trail Waterproof Shell jacket, The Right Trousers? Cookies help us deliver our Services. But even unloaded on Utah’s fabulous White Rim Trail (left), I still feel the XR would have been a nippier and better-sprung machine. Scan over them and there looks to be very little in it: same weight fuelled up; same number of gears; suspension travel within an inch. But as said before it sucks to stall in traffic and isn't a great commuter. I have weighed several XR200R, early and late,and collected Honda dry weight specs:.
Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gundy, May 27, 2017. It will do 70 but not uphill or into the wind and it will be revved above its torque sweet spot. The R is so much better in every way. Get the XR650R. (I haven’t been 50kg since I was 12 ;-), Chris …
They still kept going. Big savings, low miles and fewer or 1 owners. The XR250 Tornado is no longer made in Brazil and, at least in South America, has become the XRE300 (left) – a  Tornado engine bored to 291 plus efi, rear disc, optional ABS and cool, rally styling for same price as the CRF250L.

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